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Mark's Weekly Message: Here we go. Again.

June 8, 2012  |  Mark Perriello

Why am I writing another post about pool lifts?

Why?

The American Hotel & Lodging Association (AH&LA) and individual hotel owners aren’t done chipping away at our rights. In fact, they aren’t even playing fair. Literally 15 minutes before negotiators at AAPD sat down with AH&LA, they sent an email to the Hill saying they wanted their member hotels to be free of the heavy burden and  “attractive nuisance” that they say our equality represents.

Again, why?

Because, like many businesses in America, these hotel groups claim to support access and equality for Americans with Disabilities while actively fighting against it. If they really wanted to provide us equal amenities for the equal money we pay to stay in their hotels, they would call off their attack dogs in Congress.

These groups sat down in AAPD’s office and told us that we were overestimating their power to influence Congress.  Well if that’s the case, if I were a member hotel, I’d wonder what they were doing for me.

After all, an AH&LA VP wrote to congressional staff just 15 minutes before our meeting and told them that the group planned to keep fighting for the bill.  If they have so little power, one wonders why they’d pay lobbyists for the effort.

So, Why am I forced to write this?

Because this is what hotel owners have to say about our rights:

If someone is unable to safely get in and out of a pool without aid I do not wnat them in my pool. Furthermore, if someone who needed a lift to get in and out of a pool had some type of paralysis, there is a very real possibility they may have lack of bowel control. Then I am dealing with a real health issue. Due I then have the right to charge that person the cost of cleaning the pool as well as loss of revenue from my pool being close?

It should be an individual business's choice to cater to a special needs group.

And this:

Adding a lift will create more of an attractive nuisance, a danger to the majority using the facilty and at an expense that is ludicrous. I would rather put the investment into equipment that could enhance the facility for all participants.

And this:

First of all, if a handicap person needs said lift to enter the pool, what are they going to be able to do once they are in there? Nothing.

And this:

My take is most of them feel it is too complex of a task and too exhausting to get prepared to go swimming then hoist themselves into the pool and then try to swim and lets not forget this is a public pool so their might be many other guests in the pool already who feel they have just as much right to swim as the disabled person does and wont give any space or consideration to swim. Then the disabled person has to maneuver themselves into the lift again and remove themselves from the pool and into a wheelchair, then work on cleaning themselves for dinner or sleep. Maybe this is a dream come try for the disabled community but I would ask the DOJ to do a little more research before mandating this lift to all pools in the US Thank you for listening,

And this:

Physically challanged understand that there are some things they are not able to do, and can actually cause more harm than good. If you had a disabled child would you let them get in the pool and drown, We have been in business over 10yrs and not one physically challanged person has asked to get in the pool. This is incorrectly thought out decision that DOJ made and has to be reveresed. Please do some fact findings before we have this implemented.

And this:

I understand that handicapped people shouldn't be denied the pleasure of swimming, but, if that person is so handicapped that they need a lift to get in the pool, how can they possibly swim? Who is liable for their safety after they are in the water? A pool is something that just isn't safe for everyone.

And this:

When is the last time anyone, and I mean anyone, has seen a person in a wheelchair even with a bathing suit on. Never mind actually swimming, in other than a physical therapy session?

Had enough? I have. 
Stay tuned.


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Submitted by CPmommy at 05:56 AM on June 29, 2012
wow! I think everyone with a disabilty, or a disabled child, should post pics of themselves in their bathing suits, pics of themselves swimming, etc. This is outrageous.
Submitted by EAE at 01:43 PM on June 23, 2012
Have been swimming for a dozen years at a health club that has the chair lift. Years earlier I was trained to use a LIFE JACKET to assist what I can do. I am old now. Life jacket swim has been literally a life saver!
Submitted by jlenoir1 at 04:21 PM on June 20, 2012
As an individual who uses a wheelchair and has used chairlifts when available, it is very disheartening reading the above comments. Must remember to not let my ego get involved and remember not all who speak think before they do so. By the comments listed it appears that these "Managers" already have a preconceived stereotype of who they "think" will be using the pool. The hotel industry appears to be shooting themselves in the foot. Based on their backward thinking comments, I guess everyone who enters a pool is there to swim! Boy are they in for a shock if they were to spend just several hours overseeing pool activities of the young, couples, families and the elderly. I would bet "Managers" would see little "actual Swimming" and more playing and horsing around. Hotel owners, when you dont have enough and/or accurate information, I believe it is better to keep unfounded comments to yourselves. Just by reading the above comments, I believe these "Managers" are showing their scared, uneducated and prejudice sides. I actual found some of the comments funny as they were so absurb and knowing that they came from the mouths of "grown-ups". Our nation is in real trouble!!!
Submitted by Sandi Geer at 01:09 PM on June 18, 2012
I truley believe that all people should have access to any public place or enemity. Sandi
Submitted by DeafCP at 09:52 PM on June 10, 2012
This is nothing new about hotels trying to avoid having some issues related to our rights to be pleasure and, at the same time, be SAFE like some equipments in a kit that are missing or worn out.
Submitted by Suzanne at 09:52 AM on June 10, 2012
Who provides the financial support for the American Hotel & Lodging Association (AH&LA)?
Submitted by emprentiss at 06:35 PM on June 9, 2012
oh lets all go put on our bathing suits at their pools & go swimming. I don't have easy access to a swimming pool in NYC but I love to swim, yes mostly for PT. Every time I'm in a hotel, my first stop is to check out the swimming pool. I can drag myself in & out of the pool but would gladly use a lift! ....
Submitted by Meals on Wheels at 07:02 PM on June 8, 2012
When is the last time the lobbyists who wrote that blasphemy swam anywhere besides their private country club?
Submitted by Justgeoff at 05:08 PM on June 8, 2012
Mark, I am someone who does not have a disability that requires me to use a wheelchair. I am someone who has the imagination to understand that there are many barriers that have been built, and continue to be built, that prevent people with disabilities - and not only those who use wheelchairs - from accessing the everyday goods and services that those of us who are (temporarily) able-bodied take for granted. I think people with disabilities were probably swimming even before FDR. I am outraged at the ignorance, bigotry, narrow-mindedness, and general obnoxiousness of the commnenters that you quote. One can only suspect that the hotel industry is paying lobbyists even more than it would cost them to make their pools accessible. Furthermore, if it's not "readily achievable" they don't have to do it. Finally, if a hotel is a small business as defined by the ADA (i.e., < 30 FT employees) they can get a 50% tax credit on up to $10,000 of qualifying expense for complying with the ADA. A pool lift might cost $5-6 thousand to install, but that could be cut in half with the Disabled Access Credit. The reason for resistance on this has NOTHING to do with the cost or good business sense. It has everything to do with stereotypes and prejudice. The biggest barrier to access for all remains the attitudes of small-minded people.
Submitted by Inclusion at 04:52 PM on June 8, 2012
This is about inclusion and equal rights, I am a paraplegic veteran I love swimming in a swimming pool, river, lake or ocean. A pool lift is just an assistive technology that make the life of people with disabilities or anyone with temporary disabilities less complex. Mr. Perriello need to educate himself more about the diversity of our today society and PWD.
Submitted by carp at 04:22 PM on June 8, 2012
The way I see it the handy cap should not be punished,for wanting the same fun the other people have !!!!!
Submitted by Bellringer at 03:50 PM on June 8, 2012
I am a person who uses a mobility scooter and braces, but I go to the local YMCA several times a week. It is the only exercise I can do. I love the water and I have been looking forward to hotel pools having access. We are still the minority seeking our civil rights.

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